[wsjt-devel] increasing false decodes in Version R7895

[Bibinuk Dental]

dear developer team
my first bug report. pse advice if such report is welcome or not.

regards;

Remo es HB9SHD
------- bug report -----


Program version: WSJT-X v.1.7.1-devel r7895
Operating system:
- compiled and linked: Windows 10 Enterprise
- run: Windows 10 Pro

Concise description of the problem
Since Version r7895 I experienced an increase of false decode, especially below -20dB. I put all decodes in table below- good and false for comparison

Exact sequence of steps required to reproduce the problem


071430 -24 1.7 1077 ~ E23JSC S15NOS PO64 <-- false Decode
073030 -24 -3.1 333 ~ 0R250L/X87PF2 <-- false Decode
073445 -24 1.8 1923 ~ -V/W+94-/?WXY <-- false Decode
075630 -12 0.6 1152 ~ CQ EA7HG IM87 Spain
075700 -11 0.6 1152 ~ CQ EA7HG IM87 Spain
075700 -18 0.6 1128 ~ CQ EA7HG IM87 Spain
075700 -20 0.6 1176 ~ CQ EA7HG IM87 Spain
075730 -11 0.1 1152 ~ CQ EA7HG IM87 Spain
075730 -17 0.1 1127 ~ CQ EA7HG IM87 Spain
075800 -17 0.1 1151 ~ CQ EA7HG IM87 Spain
080000 -11 0.1 1151 ~ CQ EA7HG IM87 Spain
080000 -19 0.1 1126 ~ CQ EA7HG IM87 Spain
080000 -19 0.2 1177 ~ CQ EA7HG IM87 Spain
080930 -24 1.9 2249 ~ NI8ZEH 5Q6 JQ97 <-- false Decode
081800 -24 0.8 2507 ~ AT1XDH SV0UUO RB02 <-- false Decode
082545 -24 1.0 903 ~ W /ZC14CEE3OA <-- false Decode
083715 -24 -3.1 253 ~ Q24NUQ W43VPK PR23 <-- false Decode
084400 -20 0.8 1448 ~ SRI NO DECODE
085245 -24 1.8 233 ~ 7E6GYCSK+37O7 <-- false Decode
085745 -19 0.8 1282 ~ CQ DL1IP JN49 ~Germany
090015 -20 0.2 1036 ~ CQ DH8IAT JN49 ~Germany
090345 -19 0.2 1012 ~ CQ DH8IAT JN49 ~Germany
091145 -24 -0.5 1678 ~ MX6FHH GE7ZKB BF13 <-- false Decode
091215 -18 0.7 1007 ~ CQ DH8IAT JN49 ~Germany
091245 -18 0.0 1008 ~ CQ DH8IAT JN49 ~Germany
091845 -17 0.8 1486 ~ CQ SV2JL KN10 ~Greece
091915 -15 0.8 1485 ~ CQ SV2JL KN10 ~Greece

[Adrian Fabry]

I confirm this in r7894, here are some wav files:



https://www.dropbox.com/s/2bmsv0trpn93qgt/FT8%20false.ZIP?dl=0





73 Ady YO2NAA



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From: Bibinuk Dental [mailto:***@hotmail.com]
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To: wsjt-***@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [wsjt-devel] increasing false decodes in Version R7895



dear developer team

my first bug report. pse advice if such report is welcome or not.



regards;


Remo es HB9SHD

------- bug report -----



Program version: WSJT-X v.1.7.1-devel r7895
Operating system:

- compiled and linked: Windows 10 Enterprise

- run: Windows 10 Pro


Concise description of the problem

Since Version r7895 I experienced an increase of false decode, especially
below -20dB. I put all decodes in table below- good and false for comparison


Exact sequence of steps required to reproduce the problem





071430 -24 1.7 1077 ~ E23JSC S15NOS PO64 <-- false Decode

073030 -24 -3.1 333 ~ 0R250L/X87PF2 <-- false Decode

073445 -24 1.8 1923 ~ -V/W+94-/?WXY <-- false Decode

075630 -12 0.6 1152 ~ CQ EA7HG IM87 Spain

075700 -11 0.6 1152 ~ CQ EA7HG IM87 Spain

075700 -18 0.6 1128 ~ CQ EA7HG IM87 Spain

075700 -20 0.6 1176 ~ CQ EA7HG IM87 Spain

075730 -11 0.1 1152 ~ CQ EA7HG IM87 Spain

075730 -17 0.1 1127 ~ CQ EA7HG IM87 Spain

075800 -17 0.1 1151 ~ CQ EA7HG IM87 Spain

080000 -11 0.1 1151 ~ CQ EA7HG IM87 Spain

080000 -19 0.1 1126 ~ CQ EA7HG IM87 Spain

080000 -19 0.2 1177 ~ CQ EA7HG IM87 Spain

080930 -24 1.9 2249 ~ NI8ZEH 5Q6 JQ97 <-- false Decode

081800 -24 0.8 2507 ~ AT1XDH SV0UUO RB02 <-- false Decode

082545 -24 1.0 903 ~ W /ZC14CEE3OA <-- false Decode

083715 -24 -3.1 253 ~ Q24NUQ W43VPK PR23 <-- false Decode

084400 -20 0.8 1448 ~ SRI NO DECODE

085245 -24 1.8 233 ~ 7E6GYCSK+37O7 <-- false Decode

085745 -19 0.8 1282 ~ CQ DL1IP JN49 ~Germany

090015 -20 0.2 1036 ~ CQ DH8IAT JN49 ~Germany

090345 -19 0.2 1012 ~ CQ DH8IAT JN49 ~Germany

091145 -24 -0.5 1678 ~ MX6FHH GE7ZKB BF13 <-- false Decode

091215 -18 0.7 1007 ~ CQ DH8IAT JN49 ~Germany

091245 -18 0.0 1008 ~ CQ DH8IAT JN49 ~Germany

091845 -17 0.8 1486 ~ CQ SV2JL KN10 ~Greece

091915 -15 0.8 1485 ~ CQ SV2JL KN10 ~Greece

[Bill Somerville]

Post by Bibinuk Dental
dear developer team
my first bug report. pse advice if such report is welcome or not.
regards;
Remo es HB9SHD
------- bug report -----
Program version: WSJT-X v.1.7.1-devel r7895

Hi Remo,

those of you building WSJT-X from sources should be aware that the
development branch ^/branches/wsjtx currently identifying itself as
v1.7.1-devel is highly unstable at present and probably not suitable for
use on air even on receive unless you turn off all automated spotting to
pskreporter, and hamspots if you also use JTAlert. If you must build the
development branch then please monitor the Source Forge change comments
closely and any posts here about suitability for use. As always, we do
our work with everything exposed which helps the developers greatly when
collaborating on enhancements. This allows you to see what is happening
but it is a two way street, we expect respect for our warnings of
usability and some effort by all to understand what is happening amongst
the development team.

The v1.8 branch ^/branches/wsjtx-1.8 which currently identifies as
v1.8.0-rc2 is where your focus should be as this is where fixes for
issues in the RC1 release candidate will be placed ready for the next
release candidate and eventually the general availability release (GA).

73
Bill
G4WJS.

[Steve Huston]

Post by Bill Somerville
The v1.8 branch ^/branches/wsjtx-1.8 which currently identifies as
v1.8.0-rc2 is where your focus should be as this is where fixes for issues
in the RC1 release candidate will be placed ready for the next release
candidate and eventually the general availability release (GA).

Thanks for that, Bill; I knew the wsjtx branch was no longer suitable
for use on air, but I've been away from using svn for long enough that
I forgot about how branching is done and where I should go look for
the right place to grab updates before official packages are released.
Guess I'm too used to Mercurial now (don't ask about git :D )

[Bill Somerville]

Post by Steve Huston

Post by Bill Somerville
The v1.8 branch ^/branches/wsjtx-1.8 which currently identifies as
v1.8.0-rc2 is where your focus should be as this is where fixes for issues
in the RC1 release candidate will be placed ready for the next release
candidate and eventually the general availability release (GA).

Thanks for that, Bill; I knew the wsjtx branch was no longer suitable
for use on air, but I've been away from using svn for long enough that
I forgot about how branching is done and where I should go look for
the right place to grab updates before official packages are released.
Guess I'm too used to Mercurial now (don't ask about git :D )

Hi Steve,

If you are using raw subversion commands then:

$ svn switch ^/branches/wsjtx-1.8

will swap your workspace to the v1.8 branch and:

$ svn sw ^/branches/wsjtx

to get back to the development trunk (branch).

For JTSDK users I believe this is automated and you can switch branches
with a canned command.

73
Bill
G4WJS.

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[Alessandro Gorobey via wsjt-devel]

Hi Ron,

if you use JTSDK win32

wsjtx-list -u

wsjtx-1.8 -c release -t install

after compile script show the path of destination

Does anyone know the JTSDK commands to switch to the v1.8 branch?
Ron
VE3CGR

Post by Bill Somerville

Post by Steve Huston

Post by Bill Somerville
The v1.8 branch ^/branches/wsjtx-1.8 which currently identifies as
v1.8.0-rc2 is where your focus should be as this is where fixes for issues
in the RC1 release candidate will be placed ready for the next release
candidate and eventually the general availability release (GA).

Thanks for that, Bill; I knew the wsjtx branch was no longer suitable
for use on air, but I've been away from using svn for long enough that
I forgot about how branching is done and where I should go look for
the right place to grab updates before official packages are released.
Guess I'm too used to Mercurial now (don't ask about git :D )

Hi Steve,
$ svn switch ^/branches/wsjtx-1.8
$ svn sw ^/branches/wsjtx
to get back to the development trunk (branch).
For JTSDK users I believe this is automated and you can switch
branches with a canned command.
73
Bill
G4WJS.
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[Richard Stanley via wsjt-devel]

Hi Ron

not sure if there is a more elegant way but I

wsjtx-list –u
build-wsjtx -b dev -n wsjtx-1.8 -c release -t install
This works for me.

Richard G7OED






From: Ron Gibson
Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2017 4:45 PM
To: wsjt-***@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] increasing false decodes in Version R7895

Does anyone know the JTSDK commands to switch to the v1.8 branch?
Ron
VE3CGR


On 7/16/2017 9:24 AM, Bill Somerville wrote:

On 16/07/2017 14:16, Steve Huston wrote:

On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 6:38 AM, Bill Somerville mailto:***@classdesign.com wrote:
The v1.8 branch ^/branches/wsjtx-1.8 which currently identifies as
v1.8.0-rc2 is where your focus should be as this is where fixes for issues
in the RC1 release candidate will be placed ready for the next release
candidate and eventually the general availability release (GA).
Thanks for that, Bill; I knew the wsjtx branch was no longer suitable
for use on air, but I've been away from using svn for long enough that
I forgot about how branching is done and where I should go look for
the right place to grab updates before official packages are released.
Guess I'm too used to Mercurial now (don't ask about git :D )
Hi Steve,


If you are using raw subversion commands then:

$ svn switch ^/branches/wsjtx-1.8

will swap your workspace to the v1.8 branch and:

$ svn sw ^/branches/wsjtx

to get back to the development trunk (branch).

For JTSDK users I believe this is automated and you can switch branches with a canned command.

73
Bill
G4WJS.





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Hello All,



The method Richard stated below is the preferred build method, for several reasons. Those testing the release candidate branch—which is what needs testing at this point—should build the ^/wsjtx-1.8-rcX branch, not the ^/wsjtx branch. The ^wsjtx branch can have all sorts of unstable, partially complete, and/or non-functional code at any given time. The only people that should be building from the development branch ^/wsjtx are the application developers, which 99.9% of users are not part of.



While it is not a problem to use the svn switch command, facilities exist to allow you to build the RC dev branch while maintaining your default build options. All the while, leaving the ^/wsjtx to the developers. If this is far too confusing, you should probably wait for the official RC build from the development team.



To display wsjtx build options help menu:

help-wsjtx



To display the list option help screen:

wsjtx-list -h



To see the available branches:

wsjtx-list -a



To update available branch list:

wsjtx-list -u



Then, as Richard stated, to build the release candidate “dev” branch:



build-wsjtx -b dev -n wsjtx-1.8 -c release -t install



Note: the above is a dev branch “dev”, not the released GA/RC candidate branch. If new fixes/features are added “ontop of” the RC1 branch, and the development team askes for testing on this branch, that’s what you should be building/testing.



When a new RC(x) is released to GA—after updating your lists—it will appear as wsjtx-1.8.0-rc2



build-wsjtx -b gar -n wsjtx-1.8.0-rc2 -c release -t install



Note the “gar”, and full name of the release candidate “wsjtx-1.8.0-rc2” in the command above.



73’s

Greg, KI7MT





From: Richard Stanley via wsjt-devel [mailto:wsjt-***@lists.sourceforge.net]
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Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] increasing false decodes in Version R7895



Hi Ron



not sure if there is a more elegant way but I



wsjtx-list –u

build-wsjtx -b dev -n wsjtx-1.8 -c release -t install

This works for me.

Richard G7OED







From: Ron Gibson

Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2017 4:45 PM

To: wsjt-***@lists.sourceforge.net

Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] increasing false decodes in Version R7895



Does anyone know the JTSDK commands to switch to the v1.8 branch?
Ron
VE3CGR

On 7/16/2017 9:24 AM, Bill Somerville wrote:

On 16/07/2017 14:16, Steve Huston wrote:

On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 6:38 AM, Bill Somerville mailto:***@classdesign.com wrote:

The v1.8 branch ^/branches/wsjtx-1.8 which currently identifies as
v1.8.0-rc2 is where your focus should be as this is where fixes for issues
in the RC1 release candidate will be placed ready for the next release
candidate and eventually the general availability release (GA).

Thanks for that, Bill; I knew the wsjtx branch was no longer suitable
for use on air, but I've been away from using svn for long enough that
I forgot about how branching is done and where I should go look for
the right place to grab updates before official packages are released.
Guess I'm too used to Mercurial now (don't ask about git :D )

Hi Steve,

If you are using raw subversion commands then:

$ svn switch ^/branches/wsjtx-1.8

will swap your workspace to the v1.8 branch and:

$ svn sw ^/branches/wsjtx

to get back to the development trunk (branch).

For JTSDK users I believe this is automated and you can switch branches with a canned command.

73
Bill
G4WJS.






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[Black Michael via wsjt-devel]

I'm doing some local testing with 7895 and have my test setup hooked up to a dummy virtual audio.
So it's seeing 0dB...but I'm getting periodic decodes nonetheless of the same false decode /WGMUX/XRV/I at -24dB and 1.9 DT
Here's a few files that do generate the false decode.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bhs95l02q2ntnx5/170716_181930.wav?dl=1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ylnyymttpfx5xc5/170716_184230.wav?dl=1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/f1rgl09fnsgngqa/170716_172230.wav?dl=1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6po5ly4u5skva1d/170716_173830.wav?dl=1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/e05bqzyn8et3omi/170716_174730.wav?dl=1

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[Joe Taylor]

Mike --

We do NOT need reports about false decodes produced from development
code that is not released -- and use of which has been strongly
discouraged.

Such reports on "DO NOT USE" code only tend to give the mode or the
program a bad name. And they encourage others (who may not know any
better) to use the unreleased code.

If you think you understand something about the development code that
your measurements help to illuminate, communicate directly with whoever
wrote the code.

-- Joe, K1JT

Post by Black Michael via wsjt-devel
I'm doing some local testing with 7895 and have my test setup hooked up
to a dummy virtual audio.
So it's seeing 0dB...but I'm getting periodic decodes nonetheless of the
same false decode /WGMUX/XRV/I at -24dB and 1.9 DT
Here's a few files that do generate the false decode.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bhs95l02q2ntnx5/170716_181930.wav?dl=1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ylnyymttpfx5xc5/170716_184230.wav?dl=1
<https://www.dropbox.com/s/bhs95l02q2ntnx5/170716_181930.wav?dl=1>
https://www.dropbox.com/s/f1rgl09fnsgngqa/170716_172230.wav?dl=1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6po5ly4u5skva1d/170716_173830.wav?dl=1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/e05bqzyn8et3omi/170716_174730.wav?dl=1
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when answering qso's the TX5 line comes up blank - no 73 ... why?

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