Discussion:
[wsjt-devel] TQSL's config.xml
Dan Malcolm
2017-07-18 16:02:23 UTC
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A question for smarter people than me.



TQSL's config.xml contains all the modes acceptable to TQSL. Instead of
mapping FT8->DATA in TQSL, could I accomplish something similar but more
accurate by inserting a new XML coded line in config.xml?

Insert a line like: "<adifmode adif-mode="FT8" mode="FT8">FT8</adifmode>"



This might even be moot, since the new ADIF spec is out and includes FT8.

* LoTW's website shows config.xml's latest iteration is v11.0. No
mention of which ADIF spec.

* ADIF.ORG's website still shows v3.0.5 as the latest.

* eQSL says it's using ADIF spec 3.0.6.



It's entirely possible that ARRL will update config.xml soon on its own.



Dan - K4SHQ
Bill Somerville
2017-07-18 16:07:45 UTC
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TQSL’s config.xml contains all the modes acceptable to TQSL. Instead
of mapping FT8->DATA in TQSL, could I accomplish something similar but
more accurate by inserting a new XML coded line in config.xml?
Insert a line like: “<adifmode adif-mode="FT8" mode="FT8">FT8</adifmode>”
Hi Dan,

I doubt that will work as it probably has to match capability on the
LotW server which will not be prepared to accept ADIF records from you
specifying the mode as FT8. I would take the tQSL configuration file as
private to the LotW developers and leave it alone.

73
Bill
G4WJS.
Dan Malcolm
2017-07-18 16:30:28 UTC
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Bill,

I had that same thought, hence my query. While changing my end is easy,
that doesn't make it the right thing to do. I will stay with what I have
until ARRL makes the change.

Thanks



Dan - K4SHQ



From: Bill Somerville [mailto:***@classdesign.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 11:08 AM
To: wsjt-***@lists.sourceforge.net
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On 18/07/2017 17:02, Dan Malcolm wrote:

TQSL's config.xml contains all the modes acceptable to TQSL. Instead of
mapping FT8->DATA in TQSL, could I accomplish something similar but more
accurate by inserting a new XML coded line in config.xml?

Insert a line like: "<adifmode adif-mode="FT8" mode="FT8">FT8</adifmode>"

Hi Dan,

I doubt that will work as it probably has to match capability on the LotW
server which will not be prepared to accept ADIF records from you specifying
the mode as FT8. I would take the tQSL configuration file as private to the
LotW developers and leave it alone.

73
Bill
G4WJS.
Black Michael via wsjt-devel
2017-07-18 16:15:01 UTC
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3.0.6 has not had finally approval yet.eQSL is just implementing it early.I doubt ARRL will ever touch a draft ADIF spec.
de Mike W9MDB

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Dan Malcolm
2017-07-18 16:29:06 UTC
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Mike,

I agree with that assessment. I did not realize that ADIF 3.0.6 was still draft, but since it is, that explains a lot. While changing my end is easy, that doesn’t make it the right thing to do. I will stay with what I have until ARRL makes the change.



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Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] TQSL's config.xml



3.0.6 has not had finally approval yet.

eQSL is just implementing it early.

I doubt ARRL will ever touch a draft ADIF spec.



de Mike W9MDB





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Subject: [wsjt-devel] TQSL's config.xml



A question for smarter people than me.



TQSL’s config.xml contains all the modes acceptable to TQSL. Instead of mapping FT8->DATA in TQSL, could I accomplish something similar but more accurate by inserting a new XML coded line in config.xml?

Insert a line like: “<adifmode adif-mode="FT8" mode="FT8">FT8</adifmode>”



This might even be moot, since the new ADIF spec is out and includes FT8.

* LoTW’s website shows config.xml’s latest iteration is v11.0. No mention of which ADIF spec.

* ADIF.ORG’s website still shows v3.0.5 as the latest.

* eQSL says it’s using ADIF spec 3.0.6.



It’s entirely possible that ARRL will update config.xml soon on its own.



Dan – K4SHQ
Greg Beam
2017-07-18 17:00:02 UTC
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You could ask Rick M., Dave, or one of the other Trusted QSL developers, but, I would think that adjustments to the client-side will have little to no affect—other than mapping the mode to data—until the server-side model has been updated to accommodate the new mode.



Even if the ADIF spec is released today, the backend work would still need to be done before correct mapping of FT8 QSO’s could be realized. I don’t know what the LoTW eng/test/production release process is, but I would suspect work has already begun adding changes to the server model based on the proposed ADIF changes.



I don’t really understand the urgency here. All one must do is hold back their FT8 QSO’s until the LoTW server is ready to accept them (as FT8 QSO’s that is). This situation “is not new”, it happens with every new mode / sub-mode introduction.



73’s

Greg, KI7MT



From: Black Michael via wsjt-devel [mailto:wsjt-***@lists.sourceforge.net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 10:15 AM
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Cc: Black Michael <***@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] TQSL's config.xml



3.0.6 has not had finally approval yet.

eQSL is just implementing it early.

I doubt ARRL will ever touch a draft ADIF spec.



de Mike W9MDB





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Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 11:05 AM
Subject: [wsjt-devel] TQSL's config.xml



A question for smarter people than me.



TQSL’s config.xml contains all the modes acceptable to TQSL. Instead of mapping FT8->DATA in TQSL, could I accomplish something similar but more accurate by inserting a new XML coded line in config.xml?

Insert a line like: “<adifmode adif-mode="FT8" mode="FT8">FT8</adifmode>”



This might even be moot, since the new ADIF spec is out and includes FT8.

* LoTW’s website shows config.xml’s latest iteration is v11.0. No mention of which ADIF spec.

* ADIF.ORG’s website still shows v3.0.5 as the latest.

* eQSL says it’s using ADIF spec 3.0.6.



It’s entirely possible that ARRL will update config.xml soon on its own.



Dan – K4SHQ
Dave AA6YQ
2017-07-18 17:21:21 UTC
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You can configure TQSL to automatically “map” FT8 QSOs to DATA now, which will enable LoTW to accept them. See



https://lotw.arrl.org/lotw-help/pref-adi/



73,



Dave, AA6YQ







From: Greg Beam [mailto:***@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 1:00 PM
To: 'WSJT software development'
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] TQSL's config.xml



You could ask Rick M., Dave, or one of the other Trusted QSL developers, but, I would think that adjustments to the client-side will have little to no affect—other than mapping the mode to data—until the server-side model has been updated to accommodate the new mode.



Even if the ADIF spec is released today, the backend work would still need to be done before correct mapping of FT8 QSO’s could be realized. I don’t know what the LoTW eng/test/production release process is, but I would suspect work has already begun adding changes to the server model based on the proposed ADIF changes.



I don’t really understand the urgency here. All one must do is hold back their FT8 QSO’s until the LoTW server is ready to accept them (as FT8 QSO’s that is). This situation “is not new”, it happens with every new mode / sub-mode introduction.



73’s

Greg, KI7MT



From: Black Michael via wsjt-devel [mailto:wsjt-***@lists.sourceforge.net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 10:15 AM
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Cc: Black Michael <***@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] TQSL's config.xml



3.0.6 has not had finally approval yet.

eQSL is just implementing it early.

I doubt ARRL will ever touch a draft ADIF spec.



de Mike W9MDB





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From: Dan Malcolm <***@gmail.com>
To: wsjtx-devel <wsjt-***@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 11:05 AM
Subject: [wsjt-devel] TQSL's config.xml



A question for smarter people than me.



TQSL’s config.xml contains all the modes acceptable to TQSL. Instead of mapping FT8->DATA in TQSL, could I accomplish something similar but more accurate by inserting a new XML coded line in config.xml?

Insert a line like: “<adifmode adif-mode="FT8" mode="FT8">FT8</adifmode>”



This might even be moot, since the new ADIF spec is out and includes FT8.

· LoTW’s website shows config.xml’s latest iteration is v11.0. No mention of which ADIF spec.

· ADIF.ORG’s website still shows v3.0.5 as the latest.

· eQSL says it’s using ADIF spec 3.0.6.



It’s entirely possible that ARRL will update config.xml soon on its own.



Dan – K4SHQ
Greg Beam
2017-07-18 18:02:11 UTC
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Hi Dave,



Thanks. I recall--vaguely--there being some issue with using this method before LoTW implements the mode. I don’t recall what it was offhand. Something to the affect that, once you’ve created the map, you (or LoTW) cannot go back and change it in the event the mapping we select locally differs from the server-side implementation. Thus, for whatever reason at the time, I chose to just wait for LoTW to implement the mode.



I think when JT9 came out, there was discussion about the use of mapping to data. However, I can’t recall exactly what the situation was. It may be a moot point now. It may also I am confusing the RTTY to DATA debate, no sure.



73’s

Greg, KI7MT





From: Dave AA6YQ [mailto:***@ambersoft.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 11:21 AM
To: 'WSJT software development' <wsjt-***@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] TQSL's config.xml



You can configure TQSL to automatically “map” FT8 QSOs to DATA now, which will enable LoTW to accept them. See



https://lotw.arrl.org/lotw-help/pref-adi/



73,



Dave, AA6YQ







From: Greg Beam [mailto:***@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 1:00 PM
To: 'WSJT software development'
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] TQSL's config.xml



You could ask Rick M., Dave, or one of the other Trusted QSL developers, but, I would think that adjustments to the client-side will have little to no affect—other than mapping the mode to data—until the server-side model has been updated to accommodate the new mode.



Even if the ADIF spec is released today, the backend work would still need to be done before correct mapping of FT8 QSO’s could be realized. I don’t know what the LoTW eng/test/production release process is, but I would suspect work has already begun adding changes to the server model based on the proposed ADIF changes.



I don’t really understand the urgency here. All one must do is hold back their FT8 QSO’s until the LoTW server is ready to accept them (as FT8 QSO’s that is). This situation “is not new”, it happens with every new mode / sub-mode introduction.



73’s

Greg, KI7MT



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Cc: Black Michael <***@yahoo.com <mailto:***@yahoo.com> >
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] TQSL's config.xml



3.0.6 has not had finally approval yet.

eQSL is just implementing it early.

I doubt ARRL will ever touch a draft ADIF spec.



de Mike W9MDB





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From: Dan Malcolm <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> >
To: wsjtx-devel <wsjt-***@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:wsjt-***@lists.sourceforge.net> >
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 11:05 AM
Subject: [wsjt-devel] TQSL's config.xml



A question for smarter people than me.



TQSL’s config.xml contains all the modes acceptable to TQSL. Instead of mapping FT8->DATA in TQSL, could I accomplish something similar but more accurate by inserting a new XML coded line in config.xml?

Insert a line like: “<adifmode adif-mode="FT8" mode="FT8">FT8</adifmode>”



This might even be moot, since the new ADIF spec is out and includes FT8.

* LoTW’s website shows config.xml’s latest iteration is v11.0. No mention of which ADIF spec.

* ADIF.ORG’s website still shows v3.0.5 as the latest.

* eQSL says it’s using ADIF spec 3.0.6.



It’s entirely possible that ARRL will update config.xml soon on its own.



Dan – K4SHQ
Ryan Tourge
2017-07-18 18:20:58 UTC
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It's my understanding that when FT8 is implemented you can upload as FT8
and it will then confirm FT8 QSOs and unconfirm the DATA QSOs. I might be
wrong.
Post by Greg Beam
Hi Dave,
Thanks. I recall--vaguely--there being some issue with using this method
before LoTW implements the mode. I don’t recall what it was offhand.
Something to the affect that, once you’ve created the map, you (or LoTW)
cannot go back and change it in the event the mapping we select locally
differs from the server-side implementation. Thus, for whatever reason at
the time, I chose to just wait for LoTW to implement the mode.
I think when JT9 came out, there was discussion about the use of mapping
to data. However, I can’t recall exactly what the situation was. It may be
a moot point now. It may also I am confusing the RTTY to DATA debate, no
sure.
73’s
Greg, KI7MT
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 18, 2017 11:21 AM
*Subject:* Re: [wsjt-devel] TQSL's config.xml
You can configure TQSL to automatically “map” FT8 QSOs to DATA now, which
will enable LoTW to accept them. See
https://lotw.arrl.org/lotw-help/pref-adi/
73,
Dave, AA6YQ
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 18, 2017 1:00 PM
*To:* 'WSJT software development'
*Subject:* Re: [wsjt-devel] TQSL's config.xml
You could ask Rick M., Dave, or one of the other Trusted QSL developers,
but, I would think that adjustments to the client-side will have little to
no affect—other than mapping the mode to data—until the server-side model
has been updated to accommodate the new mode.
Even if the ADIF spec is released today, the backend work would still need
to be done before correct mapping of FT8 QSO’s could be realized. I don’t
know what the LoTW eng/test/production release process is, but I would
suspect work has already begun adding changes to the server model based on
the proposed ADIF changes.
I don’t really understand the urgency here. All one must do is hold back
their FT8 QSO’s until the LoTW server is ready to accept them (as FT8 QSO’s
that is). This situation “is not new”, it happens with every new mode /
sub-mode introduction.
73’s
Greg, KI7MT
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 18, 2017 10:15 AM
*Subject:* Re: [wsjt-devel] TQSL's config.xml
3.0.6 has not had finally approval yet.
eQSL is just implementing it early.
I doubt ARRL will ever touch a draft ADIF spec.
de Mike W9MDB
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*Sent:* Tuesday, July 18, 2017 11:05 AM
*Subject:* [wsjt-devel] TQSL's config.xml
A question for smarter people than me.
TQSL’s config.xml contains all the modes acceptable to TQSL. Instead of
mapping FT8->DATA in TQSL, could I accomplish something similar but more
accurate by inserting a new XML coded line in config.xml?
Insert a line like: “<adifmode adif-mode="FT8" mode="FT8">FT8</adifmode>”
This might even be moot, since the new ADIF spec is out and includes FT8.
· LoTW’s website shows config.xml’s latest iteration is v11.0.
No mention of which ADIF spec.
· ADIF.ORG’s website still shows v3.0.5 as the latest.
· eQSL says it’s using ADIF spec 3.0.6.
It’s entirely possible that ARRL will update config.xml soon on its own.
Dan – K4SHQ
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Gordon Higgins
2017-07-18 18:34:27 UTC
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YES eqsl uploades ft8 ok
Post by Ryan Tourge
It's my understanding that when FT8 is implemented you can upload as FT8
and it will then confirm FT8 QSOs and unconfirm the DATA QSOs. I might be
wrong.
Post by Greg Beam
Hi Dave,
Thanks. I recall--vaguely--there being some issue with using this method
before LoTW implements the mode. I don’t recall what it was offhand.
Something to the affect that, once you’ve created the map, you (or LoTW)
cannot go back and change it in the event the mapping we select locally
differs from the server-side implementation. Thus, for whatever reason at
the time, I chose to just wait for LoTW to implement the mode.
I think when JT9 came out, there was discussion about the use of mapping
to data. However, I can’t recall exactly what the situation was. It may be
a moot point now. It may also I am confusing the RTTY to DATA debate, no
sure.
73’s
Greg, KI7MT
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 18, 2017 11:21 AM
*Subject:* Re: [wsjt-devel] TQSL's config.xml
You can configure TQSL to automatically “map” FT8 QSOs to DATA now, which
will enable LoTW to accept them. See
https://lotw.arrl.org/lotw-help/pref-adi/
73,
Dave, AA6YQ
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 18, 2017 1:00 PM
*To:* 'WSJT software development'
*Subject:* Re: [wsjt-devel] TQSL's config.xml
You could ask Rick M., Dave, or one of the other Trusted QSL developers,
but, I would think that adjustments to the client-side will have little to
no affect—other than mapping the mode to data—until the server-side model
has been updated to accommodate the new mode.
Even if the ADIF spec is released today, the backend work would still
need to be done before correct mapping of FT8 QSO’s could be realized. I
don’t know what the LoTW eng/test/production release process is, but I
would suspect work has already begun adding changes to the server model
based on the proposed ADIF changes.
I don’t really understand the urgency here. All one must do is hold back
their FT8 QSO’s until the LoTW server is ready to accept them (as FT8 QSO’s
that is). This situation “is not new”, it happens with every new mode /
sub-mode introduction.
73’s
Greg, KI7MT
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 18, 2017 10:15 AM
*Subject:* Re: [wsjt-devel] TQSL's config.xml
3.0.6 has not had finally approval yet.
eQSL is just implementing it early.
I doubt ARRL will ever touch a draft ADIF spec.
de Mike W9MDB
------------------------------
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 18, 2017 11:05 AM
*Subject:* [wsjt-devel] TQSL's config.xml
A question for smarter people than me.
TQSL’s config.xml contains all the modes acceptable to TQSL. Instead of
mapping FT8->DATA in TQSL, could I accomplish something similar but more
accurate by inserting a new XML coded line in config.xml?
Insert a line like: “<adifmode adif-mode="FT8" mode="FT8">FT8</adifmode>”
This might even be moot, since the new ADIF spec is out and includes FT8.
· LoTW’s website shows config.xml’s latest iteration is v11.0.
No mention of which ADIF spec.
· ADIF.ORG’s website still shows v3.0.5 as the latest.
· eQSL says it’s using ADIF spec 3.0.6.
It’s entirely possible that ARRL will update config.xml soon on its own.
Dan – K4SHQ
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Dave AA6YQ
2017-07-18 20:00:52 UTC
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AA6YQ comments below
From: Greg Beam [mailto:***@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 2:02 PM
To: 'WSJT software development'
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] TQSL's config.xml



Hi Dave,



Thanks. I recall--vaguely--there being some issue with using this method before LoTW implements the mode. I don’t recall what it was offhand. Something to the affect that, once you’ve created the map, you (or LoTW) cannot go back and change it in the event the mapping we select locally differs from the server-side implementation.
That’s not correct. When LoTW accepts FT8 QSOs directly, you can remove the automatic mapping to DATA from TQSL. At that point in time, it would be polite to resubmit your FT8 QSOs to LoTW so that QSO partners pursuing an FT8 WAS endorsement (if one is introduced) will get the “exact mode matches” they need.
73,



Dave, AA6YQ
Greg Beam
2017-07-18 20:23:52 UTC
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Hi Dave,



OK, thanks for clearing that up. I knew something wasn’t straight forward, but could not recall what it was. The resubmission part is what was missing.



Thanks



Greg



From: Dave AA6YQ [mailto:***@ambersoft.com]
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AA6YQ comments below
From: Greg Beam [mailto:***@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 2:02 PM
To: 'WSJT software development'
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] TQSL's config.xml



Hi Dave,



Thanks. I recall--vaguely--there being some issue with using this method before LoTW implements the mode. I don’t recall what it was offhand. Something to the affect that, once you’ve created the map, you (or LoTW) cannot go back and change it in the event the mapping we select locally differs from the server-side implementation.
That’s not correct. When LoTW accepts FT8 QSOs directly, you can remove the automatic mapping to DATA from TQSL. At that point in time, it would be polite to resubmit your FT8 QSOs to LoTW so that QSO partners pursuing an FT8 WAS endorsement (if one is introduced) will get the “exact mode matches” they need.
73,



Dave, AA6YQ
Dan Malcolm
2017-07-18 22:29:34 UTC
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Thanks Dave, I was already aware of that and have done it. The question was more for information that real intent.



Dan – K4SHQ



From: Dave AA6YQ [mailto:***@ambersoft.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 12:21 PM
To: 'WSJT software development' <wsjt-***@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] TQSL's config.xml



You can configure TQSL to automatically “map” FT8 QSOs to DATA now, which will enable LoTW to accept them. See



https://lotw.arrl.org/lotw-help/pref-adi/



73,



Dave, AA6YQ







From: Greg Beam [mailto:***@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 1:00 PM
To: 'WSJT software development'
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] TQSL's config.xml



You could ask Rick M., Dave, or one of the other Trusted QSL developers, but, I would think that adjustments to the client-side will have little to no affect—other than mapping the mode to data—until the server-side model has been updated to accommodate the new mode.



Even if the ADIF spec is released today, the backend work would still need to be done before correct mapping of FT8 QSO’s could be realized. I don’t know what the LoTW eng/test/production release process is, but I would suspect work has already begun adding changes to the server model based on the proposed ADIF changes.



I don’t really understand the urgency here. All one must do is hold back their FT8 QSO’s until the LoTW server is ready to accept them (as FT8 QSO’s that is). This situation “is not new”, it happens with every new mode / sub-mode introduction.



73’s

Greg, KI7MT



From: Black Michael via wsjt-devel [mailto:wsjt-***@lists.sourceforge.net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 10:15 AM
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Cc: Black Michael <***@yahoo.com <mailto:***@yahoo.com> >
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] TQSL's config.xml



3.0.6 has not had finally approval yet.

eQSL is just implementing it early.

I doubt ARRL will ever touch a draft ADIF spec.



de Mike W9MDB





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From: Dan Malcolm <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> >
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Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 11:05 AM
Subject: [wsjt-devel] TQSL's config.xml



A question for smarter people than me.



TQSL’s config.xml contains all the modes acceptable to TQSL. Instead of mapping FT8->DATA in TQSL, could I accomplish something similar but more accurate by inserting a new XML coded line in config.xml?

Insert a line like: “<adifmode adif-mode="FT8" mode="FT8">FT8</adifmode>”



This might even be moot, since the new ADIF spec is out and includes FT8.

* LoTW’s website shows config.xml’s latest iteration is v11.0. No mention of which ADIF spec.

* ADIF.ORG’s website still shows v3.0.5 as the latest.

* eQSL says it’s using ADIF spec 3.0.6.



It’s entirely possible that ARRL will update config.xml soon on its own.



Dan – K4SHQ
Dan Malcolm
2017-07-18 22:28:16 UTC
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Greg,

My question was more for information than for a real intent. I have already done the FT8 mapping, and it is working quit well

Dan-K4SHQ



From: Greg Beam [mailto:***@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 12:00 PM
To: 'WSJT software development' <wsjt-***@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] TQSL's config.xml



You could ask Rick M., Dave, or one of the other Trusted QSL developers, but, I would think that adjustments to the client-side will have little to no affect—other than mapping the mode to data—until the server-side model has been updated to accommodate the new mode.



Even if the ADIF spec is released today, the backend work would still need to be done before correct mapping of FT8 QSO’s could be realized. I don’t know what the LoTW eng/test/production release process is, but I would suspect work has already begun adding changes to the server model based on the proposed ADIF changes.



I don’t really understand the urgency here. All one must do is hold back their FT8 QSO’s until the LoTW server is ready to accept them (as FT8 QSO’s that is). This situation “is not new”, it happens with every new mode / sub-mode introduction.



73’s

Greg, KI7MT



From: Black Michael via wsjt-devel [mailto:wsjt-***@lists.sourceforge.net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 10:15 AM
To: WSJT software development <wsjt-***@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:wsjt-***@lists.sourceforge.net> >
Cc: Black Michael <***@yahoo.com <mailto:***@yahoo.com> >
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] TQSL's config.xml



3.0.6 has not had finally approval yet.

eQSL is just implementing it early.

I doubt ARRL will ever touch a draft ADIF spec.



de Mike W9MDB





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From: Dan Malcolm <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> >
To: wsjtx-devel <wsjt-***@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:wsjt-***@lists.sourceforge.net> >
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 11:05 AM
Subject: [wsjt-devel] TQSL's config.xml



A question for smarter people than me.



TQSL’s config.xml contains all the modes acceptable to TQSL. Instead of mapping FT8->DATA in TQSL, could I accomplish something similar but more accurate by inserting a new XML coded line in config.xml?

Insert a line like: “<adifmode adif-mode="FT8" mode="FT8">FT8</adifmode>”



This might even be moot, since the new ADIF spec is out and includes FT8.

* LoTW’s website shows config.xml’s latest iteration is v11.0. No mention of which ADIF spec.

* ADIF.ORG’s website still shows v3.0.5 as the latest.

* eQSL says it’s using ADIF spec 3.0.6.



It’s entirely possible that ARRL will update config.xml soon on its own.



Dan – K4SHQ
Greg Beam
2017-07-18 22:48:17 UTC
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Hi Dan,



Yes, I understand. I stopped doing that sometime in the past, but couldn’t remember exactly “why”. Dave helped me understand it.



I don’t make nearly as many QSO’s as I did when contesting “a lot”. Now, resubmitting a few QSO’s to LoTW isn’t that big of a deal. Back when I was making 1000’s of QSO’s per week/weekend, I wouldn’t not entertain the thought of going back and fishing out resubmissions.



For now, I’m just waiting on LoTW to do their thing, then I’ll submit all the FT8 QSO’s. I did send a bunch to eQSL after somebody confirmed they were accepting them.



73’s

Greg, KI7MT





From: Dan Malcolm [mailto:***@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:28 PM
To: 'WSJT software development' <wsjt-***@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] TQSL's config.xml



Greg,

My question was more for information than for a real intent. I have already done the FT8 mapping, and it is working quit well

Dan-K4SHQ



From: Greg Beam [mailto:***@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 12:00 PM
To: 'WSJT software development' <wsjt-***@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:wsjt-***@lists.sourceforge.net> >
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] TQSL's config.xml



You could ask Rick M., Dave, or one of the other Trusted QSL developers, but, I would think that adjustments to the client-side will have little to no affect—other than mapping the mode to data—until the server-side model has been updated to accommodate the new mode.



Even if the ADIF spec is released today, the backend work would still need to be done before correct mapping of FT8 QSO’s could be realized. I don’t know what the LoTW eng/test/production release process is, but I would suspect work has already begun adding changes to the server model based on the proposed ADIF changes.



I don’t really understand the urgency here. All one must do is hold back their FT8 QSO’s until the LoTW server is ready to accept them (as FT8 QSO’s that is). This situation “is not new”, it happens with every new mode / sub-mode introduction.



73’s

Greg, KI7MT



From: Black Michael via wsjt-devel [mailto:wsjt-***@lists.sourceforge.net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 10:15 AM
To: WSJT software development <wsjt-***@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:wsjt-***@lists.sourceforge.net> >
Cc: Black Michael <***@yahoo.com <mailto:***@yahoo.com> >
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] TQSL's config.xml



3.0.6 has not had finally approval yet.

eQSL is just implementing it early.

I doubt ARRL will ever touch a draft ADIF spec.



de Mike W9MDB





_____

From: Dan Malcolm <***@gmail.com <mailto:***@gmail.com> >
To: wsjtx-devel <wsjt-***@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:wsjt-***@lists.sourceforge.net> >
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 11:05 AM
Subject: [wsjt-devel] TQSL's config.xml



A question for smarter people than me.



TQSL’s config.xml contains all the modes acceptable to TQSL. Instead of mapping FT8->DATA in TQSL, could I accomplish something similar but more accurate by inserting a new XML coded line in config.xml?

Insert a line like: “<adifmode adif-mode="FT8" mode="FT8">FT8</adifmode>”



This might even be moot, since the new ADIF spec is out and includes FT8.

* LoTW’s website shows config.xml’s latest iteration is v11.0. No mention of which ADIF spec.

* ADIF.ORG’s website still shows v3.0.5 as the latest.

* eQSL says it’s using ADIF spec 3.0.6.



It’s entirely possible that ARRL will update config.xml soon on its own.



Dan – K4SHQ

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